What is something everyone can agree on?

huh?

we age.

oh, ~C4, I'm so sorry, but I don't think everyone agrees on the death thing. Even discounting religious beliefs about life after death and stuff.

Actually, this is one of those QaR's that I just ignored because I don't believe there is anything everyone agrees on. I think there are some people who would “argue with a stump” about anything at all, and I think that's fine. But I also think that when there is anger and resentment and a mean spirit behind the disagreement, everyone suffers. Especially the angry resentful people, but others around them as well.

I don't think it matters that we can find a thing that everyone agrees upon, only that disagreement isn't synonymous with spewing bile and venom and waging war.

And yes, I would agree personally with your postscript, but I guarantee absolutely that there are people who will argue that construct of reality, or even that your words are real, or that there is an objective reality of which they are conscious and aware. Cogito ergo sum seems like a pretty defensible position to me, but there's been plenty of debate even there, and then the leap to accept your statement as something some indefinable “me” is reading is, for factions of the stump argument coalition, a stretch.

I don't think agreement is so important, at least I hope not, because it doesn't seem likely.

I forgot to say this:  I love that pic.

Definitely don't agree that we all die.

The bodies that we temporarily identify with for some silly reason may die, but who cares?

I think there is one thing we can agree upon, and you've got it in your P.S.: Consciousness

I think that when people make the statement “we all die” they mean our bodies…….that's not negotiable.

DUDE!  Haven't you ever heard of Peter Ragnar?  Embarassingly, this fellow believes he will live forever, and, further embarassingly, WIE.ORG was willing to go along with it.  (Okay so maybe that's a misrepresentation of both Pete and WIE and he's really just going along with this crazy experiment which he might or might not call, 'Seeing How Long I'll Live' which, bizarrely, has garnered more attention than a similar experiment I'm conducting called, 'Seeing How Long I'll Live' in conjunction with a few other studies.)  Okay, so maybe the way he's going about it, everlasting life, is crazy (organically instead of technologically), and maniacal (if not ego-maniacal), but what if this foo's approach also represents some kind of a wacky (if not animistic) open-mindedness?  What if the human experiment as it is defined evolutionarily and cosmologically is all about first inhuming a (wholly or marginally) unique self (or personality) into a biological machine, which then goes on to (as a species, of course) defy death, and then goes on to see how long it desires to remain in collusion with, uh, itself.  Okay, so MAYBE this is getting a little convoluted (if not involuted), but it still goes to show you that if there's one thing everybody agrees on, it's not that we're all going to die (even if that is inexorably the case, you fools!)

Dude! You are like the parenthesese master!!

I gotta check this guy out…..

I always thought it intriguing that maybe someday I could clone myself and then when the new me is like 17, and I'm like 80 and use the word “like” a lot less, I would transfer my old brain waves into the new me and then I would be a 17 year old with the experience of an 80 year old.

Peter Ragnar, hunh?……..

Well, just from what I see I find this guy quite intriguing. There are a few people that I'd like to watch age with intrigue…….Gary Null, Andy Weil, Jack Lalane……….Jack Lalane is still alive right?….

anyway, I don't doubt that eveyrthing Mr. Ragnar is up to regarding his health is great, and will most likely extend his life…..he could even live to 110, I do't know……or he could get a brain anurism next month (I certainly hope not of course)……

BUT!!! I don't think I'm a big fan of Andrew Cohen and like so many of these things…….I saw the link and the angle……and then Andrew Cohen…….my own personal jury is still out on that guy.

We have always agreed you can't get out of death and paying taxes.  But if Ron Paul had his way, we wouldn't pay taxes anymore so that would leave only death.  I wonder if he can also eradicate death if we elect him president?

I'll bet he would legalize euthanasia………there's another area the government should stay out of…….

hmmmmmmmmmmmm…wonder what his thought is on that?  I'm just ornery enough to log on to his website and ask … maybe tomorrow.  Remind me.