Move Over Harry Potter! ~C4Chaos is Now a Zaadz Wizard!

Okay, congrats!  If this is for real - it's time to start incorporating the features I've wanted in a practice/holistic community!  Listen to me, so I can stop thinkin I have to create something that doesn't exist yet!

Make THIS - ZAADZ - what I see needs to exist!

YAY!!! Congrats!!!  so jealous of you!!! ;-) 

Such a sure fit, really… great things can happen from this!!

Oh, wow, this is really great! Congratulations!

Congrats.

Kick ass and be still.

That's definitely what I see you doing!  Congrats!  As always, you rock.

it’s good to represent people who aren’t just you or whatever.

i could never do that.
i could totally never do that.

also: congratulations

also: kick ass and be still is one of those good integrating things where you do the whole ramana marshi thing and the whole mother theresa thing or something like that… or the whole judaism thing and the whole buddhist thing or the whole anthony robbins thing and the whole andrew cohen thing or whatever…

also: good for you, good for you, good for you - christopher walken

also: its funny that we both surrendered everything we had at the same time. you offered your all to, uh, I forget. I could scroll up but I think it was serendipity or good forces or something. i surrendered everything to, uh… well not much. i won’t go into it. too personal.

Sending a huge congratulatory hug your way!  I'm stoked for ya'!  The enthusiasm shows and Zaadz is blessed to have you on their team.

I look forward to your work! 

Cheers,

Nicole

We're excited to have you ~C. 

Welcome, welcome, welcome!!! 

Chimin' in with the congrats, mon!

And it is fun to know there is at least one other Zaadster like me who also loves their new job!  Work IS love made visible, as Khalil Gibran said.

Yippee! and a hearty congrats to the prince of pop culture. hehehe

art is love made visible. work varies. sometimes its good and somtimes you’re an illegal immagrant cleaning toilets for an drug dealer in LA trying to feed your poorly planned family of four while being mentally, emotionally, and physically abused [by your employer] on a mild scale; not bad enough to quit but just bad enough to make you feel like a worthless human being.

Way to go C! 

     I am anxious to see what You contribute.  You are definitely One of the Key Zaadzsters that make this site alot of delicious fun for Me.  I am so glad that the Staff has seen Your obvious talent.  Don't make Us wait too long now for goodies!

BE,

Erik 

Win-win-win: a win for ~C, a win for Zaadz and a win for the spiral ;-)

Congratulations all of us!

Wouldn’t we all starve (or quickly run out of other less vital services) if everyone adhered to the Buddha’s definition of work? Does anybody really see it as their life’s purpose to be an assistant to an assistant hamburger farmer or to wash our dirty dishes at restaurants or to keep our Internet up and running or to be a cashier or to make our subs or to go from dollar store to dollar store pawning cheap water bottles or to drive a security truck? Aren’t the only people who really consider their work as their life’s purpose the kind of people who provide luxuries not basic goods and services? Like artists or zaadz wizards or horse trainers or famous/near-famous politicians or specialist doctors or spiritual teachers? I’m sure you might find one or two people recognizing the significance of their contribution to a more than dimly perceived whole as a garbage man or factory worker but if you really sat one of the millions and billions of people who run our world down and asked them what they thought their life’s purpose was they either wouldn’t have an answer or their answer would lie in diverting their ‘heartfelt efforts’ to an area far outside the service industry and likely far away from anything that might actually be useful to humans in general due to the average individuals inability to expand their circle of care past a few family members and a skin color and make their life’s purpose something beneficial to a mass (be it amorphous or be it highly differientated). So if some sort of spiritual attunement is necessary as a prerequisite for finding your true potential and unfolding it in the world then what about the people who are working their asses off with no clue and no desire to have a clue about what we’re discussing here. Would you really want to pull them off the job, off what they consider to be their WORK place, to try and get them to pursue their life’s purpose while the world slowly deteriorated and every structure that upholds it presently slowly or quickly (as the case may be) disintegrates because no one’s life purpose is what they’re actually doing or what we as consumers actually need them to do? And is it really a more dignified definition of work, this ‘find your purpose’ brand? Would the world really be missing anything if you just joined their nebulous mass, dissolved the gift that is your own radical uniqueness and perpetuated the hell-bound ball of affairs that is humanity? That’s what I’m thinking of doing. I’d take the forgetful pill (the red pill or whatever) anyday. Semi-consciousness is horrid. Fully conscious doing is a myth. Simply Being is boring and useless and very tired, especially here at zaadz. Unconscious idiocy is so much better. At least those people actually have fun and most of the time they don’t need a lot of help to get by and they get married and learn how to drive cars. I’ll never get married or drive a car and for those reasons life has lost its taste. Purpose is overrated. So is the Buddha. So is mediocrity. So is Earth. So is that which transcends Earth. So is articulation. Matriculation, however, is more overrated than anything. Or is it? I guess maybe I should try it out now that I’ve decided to let go my damned cumbersome proclivity for accumulating knowledge and utilizing the repository of accumulation for some vague greater good. But don’t let me get you down. Zaadz job. Wow, what a good thing. Go fry a marshmellow, get laid, fly a balloon, wake up early, drink coffee at a new place, spend the night outdoors. Celebrate. Live it up.

Brondu, you sound like friggin' Dostoevsky, who could never convince himself of this line of argument and I don't think you can, either. I agree with the first part of your comment, but I think the second part is an expression of you provoking yourself, looking for the meaning of it all, while I have a feeling that deep down, you have a pretty good sense of it.

We cannot not trust, because living itself is trusting, so we might as well recognize it and give it is fullest expression in being all we can be, embodying that very trust.

Tell me, where you serious or not, or somewhat?

Congratulations and God Bless - John

Nice job! Seems like just yesterday we were talking about this. Manifesting at it's finest. Make no mistake that you created this Rommel….. and you SO deserve it. It is only natural that you would join such a fabulous team. The synergy will be infinite.
 
Congratulations and HAVE FUN!!!!!!!
Much love- Shelly

{Big Tears} {Deep Bows} {Big Hug}

 I know the feeling, my friend!  It's about friggin' time you joined the team, yeah?

congrats buddy! it couldn't have happened to a fluffier dude! ;)

High 5!  We're all counting on you…  NO PRESSURE!

hey c4.

thanks for being serious. i may have been drunk (seriously…..) when I ranted but that doesn’t alter the validity of some of the things I said. obviously I’m just a silly eighteen year old. we run a gamut of emotions and sometimes we like to draw attention in times of pain or need.

to clear a few things up: are you saying that everyone lower on the holarchy consider’s their life purpose to be their job and/or is excluded from the buddha’s definition of work.

when I said pull someone off the job I didn’t mean to imply they would be instantly spiritually attuned I meant just they probably wouldn’t identify their life’s purpose as a plubmer. they’d probably go seeking with the time you hypothetically bought them and they’d probably turn out to be a bad artist or something.

from an absolute point of view isn’t pretty much any radically egalitarian approach valid. to say everything is ovverrated or underrated is the same thing?

i don’t work. I spend all my time studying integral theory, transpersonal psychology, AQAL spirituality, fiction as art, and whatever else… so my conclusions of pointlessness aren’t based on thousands of hours of working a useless job but, in part, on reading thousands and thousands (literally) of pages written (almost exclusively) by authors who talk at integralnaked or WIE. days and days of time… rewarded gloriously and yet… not at all.

i didn’t say all people would be unhappy with their jobs and wouldn’t identify their job as the buddha’s definition of work I said MOST people… can’t argue that. just go out on the street and take a survey.

and…. that is all. except that I should say that I don’t like Paul because I get the feeling Paul doesn’t like me and he brings the worst out in me and makes me look at myself very reductionistically or perhaps realistically.. either way I don’t like it. Paul - you suck. Not as bad as me, of course. I mean look at this clumsily perpetuated incoherence. It’s like non-strategically placed verbal diarrhea. Man, for a perfectionist I am a goddam moron. Am I still drunk?

Sorry C4, I don’t mean to pollute the forum. People are doing an excellent job of ignoring me, so that’s good.

Ok Brondu, you must either know Paul or you've officially gone off the deep end… How in the name of all that is good and holy (i.e. ~Matthew) could you come to the conclusion that Paul doesn't like you from that one little comment directed toward ~C4Choas?

And that's really all I have to say about that.

I will defend ~C4Chaos to the DEATH (of the ego)!!!! 

yeah i shouldn’t have said that. paul’s a good guy. he helped me out, once. i’m.. wow… i’m off the deep end. you said it, matt.

i think he’ll think its funny that i think he makes me think that I don’t think as well as I’d like to think I think. and in that respect I think he likes himself which I think is good. but i don’t know who paul is so, uh, yeah…. my vague impressions should have been left non-verbalized. i apologize

Brondu,

While you have a point - in that the motivation for a job doesn't necessarily match the “perfect fulfilled life” I think that more people are “looking” for a “good” job than you know.  Now, that doesn't mean that there is some ultra-perfect fit, but, for example, I knew people who answered phones for customer service for a newspaper - at least a couple were pretty happy with that position. (Low stress, informal environment, in the case I'm thinking, close to nature).  

And most people's meanings - most people are concerned with the red and blue first - survival, sex, money, and  status.

 MOST people would listen to a integral presentation, say thank you, and never darken the doorway again.

Here is the thing though - man is a creature motivated by meaning - either internal or external.  the Atman project, right?  

Only a small number of people will go towards Atman, though, but are still looking for meaning and happiness.

At any rate, I would caution not to go TOO much “abstract”, too perfectionistic, as this is a danger with Wilber reading.  Better to get an honest assessment of your own skills, meshed with your preferences, read Pathfinder, and go from there…

All the best 

thanks ebuddha. you represent the buddha well. excessive wilber reading can do nothing but increase functionality and efficiency as well as expand context and create, uh meaningful meaning. ha-ha. ;)

please don’t equate my state with wilber reading. please don’t! Please read Ken Wilber. He’s the best. Ever. He will improve your life. I only represent myself. I’m screwed up because I’m predisposed that way. I opted out of infinite choice. lol!

Well, maybe you opted out on purpose, Brondu Rinpoche.  And as for never meeting Paul, I hung out with him last night.  He was REALLY drunk.

that’s cool. I like people who can be drunk.

Good for you, C. Probably a reward for some noble behavior in some other lifetime in a galaxy far far away. (OK, I just watched the first Star Wars movie with my 6-year-old.)